Total fantasy... like everything to do with JWs and their org-------------------- Big J can do nothing, he never does anything, never has done anything, least of all protect people from harm.
Jehovah is a completely childish superstition.
hello forum.
i started this topic because i had been thinking recently about a story that i had heard many times in different congregations over the years.
kind of a jw urban legend if you will.
Total fantasy... like everything to do with JWs and their org-------------------- Big J can do nothing, he never does anything, never has done anything, least of all protect people from harm.
Jehovah is a completely childish superstition.
i was a younger dub at the time of this release, and stopped watching this movie near its beginning, when john cleese was stoned with the huge rock for saying jehovah.. this was despite having been (and continuing to be) a major john cleese (and monty python) fan.. any fans of this film?.
The world is a better place because of The Life of Brian.
Are there fans here from North America or is it a UK thing?
boondoggles and preppers watchtower style!
a religion of doom and luxury!.
in 1866, the times of london wrote:.
I wonder if the Welsh Assembly have funds to give to organisations prepared to translate their material into the Welsh language? This is what money grabbing organisations would be interested in...
To my knowledge, and I would happily be corrected, all Welsh speakers also speak English. So why bother?
To translate religious propaganda into a virtually dead language is a waste of effort. To translate the useless rubbish from the columns of the Watchtower which nobody reads except those who do it out of misplaced duty into a language which nobody needs to speak........................ is bonkers!
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
@ Crazy guy,It is premature to declare that all is lost for the JW org but indeed it looks like the publisher increase is now done through breeding new JWs and not from field service.
Calling from door to door is now so unpopular that even the men at the top must be acknowledging it. Carts are not what they were hyped to be and the art of avoiding calling on people has developed in such a way that it's still possible to do next to nothing and technically call it reporting time. Of course there are those who are awake who in good conscience count time they didn't do.
The whole ritual of being a JW is becoming a hollow show of outward conformity but inner resistance...may it increase enormously!
My big hope is that the GB will realise that the Watchtower has had its day and that the internet and free information has won.
I hope that this will translate into acceptance that it is over and that the Watchtower will morph into a social club with the bar for joining lowered. Those with a flicker of intelligence will flee from its mindless paranoia.
humans are classified as apes.. apes don't have tails.. except when they do.. we used to have tails.
i don't mean "we" as a species; i mean you and i as individuals.
we all had tails.. embryologists divide the development of a human embryo into 23 "carnegie stages" based on multiple physical features.
Thanks for info Cofty.
There is never found irrefutable evidence for direct and independent creation.
Your subject of tails in primates is a solid evidence for us being placed on the evolutionary continuum. Even in the improbable event of an example found of a creature which had no connection to the phylogenetic tree; it would still not invalidate the truthfulness of evolution.
There is simply no sensible evidence for an invisible being making all things, it is just silly puerile thinking distorted by religious programming.
great news!.
we are free!.
as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.
Well done Eden, the whole (close) family free...what a joy!
it gives nothing, it only takes.
it preaches the end but continues to commute its financial ‘winnings’ into bricks and mortar investments and enjoys the prestige of a world-wide portfolio worth billions.
the constant postponement of armageddon only helps this business model so the administration is happy.
You've got me there ttdtt, I've no idea what MEPS is and when looking it up, it's still not clear which version of the acronym you mean...
It's a horrid religion though! A huge ugly parasite as mentioned by LHG.
when you read the following statements from the wt.
organization... do they satisfy you?
or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?.
Outlaw, just wonderin', have you any idea what "braaak" might mean?
@ Londo, that's an astonishing and foolish statement from the WT, May 1 2014, not recognising its own total failure in the same area. It is the pot calling the kettle black.
Do they actually realize they are in the same boat but must put on a macho show of superiority for the sake of partizan loyalty? Is end time prediction now a hopeless failure and cynically reduced to merely a game?
it gives nothing, it only takes.
it preaches the end but continues to commute its financial ‘winnings’ into bricks and mortar investments and enjoys the prestige of a world-wide portfolio worth billions.
the constant postponement of armageddon only helps this business model so the administration is happy.
I agree with you TTWSYF, the Watchtower is the world’s most uncharitable charity. Yes Outlaw it truly is a monumental scam. At least other religions actually have feelings for other people and in the name of God they help others in need.
The JW org condemn charity yet they are very happy to help themselves to the tax benefits of being called a "charity". What hypocrisy! Take, take, take is the motto of the governing body. Yet it is the psychological harm it does to the born-ins and young followers that must be told to the world.
We need to let people know that the JW org steals people’s lives, it takes away their freedom to choose their life course and that it stifles the natural human spirit.
I despair at the undeserved power this corrupt organisation has in controlling its unfortunate and deluded members.
it gives nothing, it only takes.
it preaches the end but continues to commute its financial ‘winnings’ into bricks and mortar investments and enjoys the prestige of a world-wide portfolio worth billions.
the constant postponement of armageddon only helps this business model so the administration is happy.
It gives nothing, it only takes.
It preaches the end but continues to turn its financial ‘winnings’ into bricks and mortar investments and enjoys the prestige of a worldwide portfolio worth billions. The constant postponement of Armageddon only helps this business model so the administration is happy. At HQ all the “spiritual” front men need to come up with each generation; is new propaganda to justify the delay... this difficulty of having to weasel out a credible excuse every thirty years or so for the governing body; is nothing compared to the real sufferings of the true believers in the rank and file.
The average JW is one who has succumbed to the need to be told what to do, and who feels secure in the Watchtower community shared-hope fostered by its leaders. The fixated vision presented by them is that this global system, controlled by Satan, will soon end in mass slaughter which only Jehovah’s Witnesses will survive.
In any context this is a prescription for paranoia.
To hold such views is very unhealthy. It is a recipe for serious mental conflict and is never resolved by the arrival of the promised paradise. The usual accommodation is found by the believer going whole-soul into the shared delusion, putting logic on the back burner and supporting the leaders of the cult.
It is demanded that JWs avoid higher education, worldly ambition, avoid socialising with non-JWs, and that they shun close family members who disagree with the Watchtower. The result is that millions have led lives stifled by the overbearing, unreasonable and untruthful demands of the governing body.
I would say that the JW organisation has brought nothing to the world except life sapping, paranoid belief, causing untold harm to millions. What do you think?